I would still care. The end result is to maintain a world of peace, one without pain or suffering. Humanity gets in the way of reason. Failure is inescapable with it. No one can evolve beyond when emotions are there.
I am aware there are those here who do not agree with me.
[AAAAAA HIS PROBLEMS. The way she is the first one to say it like it is to him even though a few have gently called him out on it.]
I did, and I do. I tried, and what I tried failed because other people were controlled by their emotions. They brought war and suffering to the commune. They destroyed what was holding it together.
It would be a salvation. Everyone... together. As one. No conflicts. All thoughts shared. Everyone would be equal.
His sigh is not annoyed - it doesn't seem like he can emote very strongly, interestingly enough - but it is resigned perhaps.]
Yes, I have heard this already from Kiraman and Lailah. But you cannot have both. They cannot exist simultaneously. As I'm sure you've seen here, in this place called Heaven.
If the emotions are kept, then there will always be violence, and suffering, and pain.
he just added a modifier so it wasn't quite as accurate ]
Humanity's biggest threat isn't itself in my world. It is another force that endangers it, and after waiting for thousands of years, I saw a change that meant there was hope for humanity.
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You would remove what made you care in the first place? Why you wanted to help?
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I would still care. The end result is to maintain a world of peace, one without pain or suffering. Humanity gets in the way of reason. Failure is inescapable with it. No one can evolve beyond when emotions are there.
That is what I learned when Jayce killed me.
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and it's what makes her ask: ]
Did what Jayce do to you break your heart?
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I don't know what you mean...
[He does not want to feel the (metaphorical) hole in his chest where the scar of the (physical) hole is, thank you.]
Logically, it was an irrational, emotional choice. And in following it, the commune was likely destroyed.
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If you take way emotions, you take away what you are trying to save, Viktor. Didn't you want to make things better for the people who were oppressed?
Taking away emotions is another form of oppression.
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[AAAAAA HIS PROBLEMS. The way she is the first one to say it like it is to him even though a few have gently called him out on it.]
I did, and I do. I tried, and what I tried failed because other people were controlled by their emotions. They brought war and suffering to the commune. They destroyed what was holding it together.
It would be a salvation. Everyone... together. As one. No conflicts. All thoughts shared. Everyone would be equal.
Is that not the final evolution for them?
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No, it's not. You would destroy their individualism and what makes everyone so lovable. I don't think it's evolution.
It's reducing them. Maybe it would be peace, but it'd end in stagnation. You'd be taking all their vitality.
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His sigh is not annoyed - it doesn't seem like he can emote very strongly, interestingly enough - but it is resigned perhaps.]
Yes, I have heard this already from Kiraman and Lailah. But you cannot have both. They cannot exist simultaneously. As I'm sure you've seen here, in this place called Heaven.
If the emotions are kept, then there will always be violence, and suffering, and pain.
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They can and have. You do not believe people can change, do you?
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I have seen people change. But the end result of humanity never changes.
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sorry he's in a heaven full of people who love love and love humanity. sorry that loving humanity is elysia's whole core. ]
Oh, but it can. It make take thousands of years, but it does. At least, it has for my world.
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Your world is free of the violence humans inflict on themselves through their emotions.
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The end result has changed, at least from how it ended originally.
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What do you mean?
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he just added a modifier so it wasn't quite as accurate ]
Humanity's biggest threat isn't itself in my world. It is another force that endangers it, and after waiting for thousands of years, I saw a change that meant there was hope for humanity.
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You think love saved them?
[There is no confidence, he sounds as if he is throwing out a guess based on their conversations.]
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[ because it was in part because of her. she wasn't the entire reason, but she was part of it.
she is sure about it now. ]
It did.
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He frowns, not entirely convinced apparently.]
Love is the most destructive.
[Don't you Lailah him and try to get him to admit to emotions like love.]
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[ he doesn't have to be convinced, but elysia is confident. ]
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You will argue with me no matter what I say unless I am agreeing.
[He doesn't sound mad, just resigned.]
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[ she's just saying. ]
I understand we both won't change our minds, but I do think your opinion has been shaped by what Jayce did to you more than you expect.
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[THIS FEELS UNFAIR.]
It wasn't only Jayce. I've always seen what emotions make people do to others. Hurt them, manipulate them, suppress them.
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[ she doesn't say it like it's a bad thing. just that it is what it is. ]
Emotions do do all of that, but they also buoy, lift, and drive people to overcome obstacles.